Comments on: Bibby Makes Atlanta Eastern Dark Horse http://obeese.wordpress.com/2008/02/16/bibby-makes-atlanta-eastern-dark-horse/ Spanning the Sports Spectrum in a Timely Manner Wed, 15 Jul 2009 16:54:28 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: fouledout http://obeese.wordpress.com/2008/02/16/bibby-makes-atlanta-eastern-dark-horse/#comment-464 fouledout Mon, 18 Feb 2008 02:27:31 +0000 http://obeese.wordpress.com/?p=151#comment-464 bibby is a good add for the hawks. beno proved to sacramanto that he can play and contribute and since they are rebuilding, it's better to take beno over bibby cause beno is younger. bibby's addition to the hawks will make them a better team because of bibby's experience, but i'm not sure if this can take them deep into the playoffs. bibby is a good add for the hawks. beno proved to sacramanto that he can play and contribute and since they are rebuilding, it’s better to take beno over bibby cause beno is younger. bibby’s addition to the hawks will make them a better team because of bibby’s experience, but i’m not sure if this can take them deep into the playoffs.

]]> By: Fredhooper http://obeese.wordpress.com/2008/02/16/bibby-makes-atlanta-eastern-dark-horse/#comment-461 Fredhooper Sun, 17 Feb 2008 03:46:58 +0000 http://obeese.wordpress.com/?p=151#comment-461 It's telling that the picture for this article is from more than 2 years ago...about the last time Bibby shot more than 40% when it counted. His shot selection and accuracy have been terrible during the past 2 years, and has been outplayed by Beno Udrih. You're all looking at this from seeing Bibby in the playoffs years ago. And oh...you'll need a shot blocker since his main will be taking it to the rack consistently. It’s telling that the picture for this article is from more than 2 years ago…about the last time Bibby shot more than 40% when it counted. His shot selection and accuracy have been terrible during the past 2 years, and has been outplayed by Beno Udrih. You’re all looking at this from seeing Bibby in the playoffs years ago. And oh…you’ll need a shot blocker since his main will be taking it to the rack consistently.

]]> By: obeese http://obeese.wordpress.com/2008/02/16/bibby-makes-atlanta-eastern-dark-horse/#comment-460 obeese Sun, 17 Feb 2008 01:29:39 +0000 http://obeese.wordpress.com/?p=151#comment-460 Cleveland must be crying, for sure. Concerning supergrover's comments, it's not that this is a bad move, it's that there was no impetus to make such an underwhelming trade when several other teams would have liked to have gotten the guy. The only real reason to do this now was to avoid the luxury tax next season, not to acquire talent/further assets. Also, Beno is a nice young point guard, and his production per dollar is much more valuable than is Bibby's, but he'll need a new deal going forward and he's not really a pure pass-first point guard--he likes to create for himself just as much as for others. That's certainly not a bad thing, but it's not like he's Rajon Rondo or Brevin Knight out there. Cleveland must be crying, for sure. Concerning supergrover’s comments, it’s not that this is a bad move, it’s that there was no impetus to make such an underwhelming trade when several other teams would have liked to have gotten the guy. The only real reason to do this now was to avoid the luxury tax next season, not to acquire talent/further assets. Also, Beno is a nice young point guard, and his production per dollar is much more valuable than is Bibby’s, but he’ll need a new deal going forward and he’s not really a pure pass-first point guard–he likes to create for himself just as much as for others. That’s certainly not a bad thing, but it’s not like he’s Rajon Rondo or Brevin Knight out there.

]]> By: supergrover http://obeese.wordpress.com/2008/02/16/bibby-makes-atlanta-eastern-dark-horse/#comment-459 supergrover Sun, 17 Feb 2008 01:08:26 +0000 http://obeese.wordpress.com/?p=151#comment-459 This is not unfortunate at all for the Kings. Any astute King's fan (one that actually watches Kings games) will know that since Bibby's return from injury, except for a couple good games at first, the collective energy of the team has taken a nose dive. We had reverted to the horrors of last year where the offense is primarily Bibby or Artest jacking up a brick and the rest of team running back with their heads lowered. This is addition by subtraction, and with Bibby gone, we can play a true pass first PG (Beno), and we will see increased ball movement and more shots for the young guys Martin, Garcia, Douby. I really don't care what we got back in return, even if Petrie waves all of them the team will be better off in the long run. I also don't see how the deal doesn't make sense if the King's don't continue to shed contracts. Even if the dealing ends here it's still a little bit of cap space saved, which makes it easier to make moves over the summer and beyond. I wish Atlanta luck and hope for their sake the Bibby that shows up isn't the one that still thinks he's top dog and has to take all the big shots. But somehow I doubt that. They needed a pass first playmaker to get easy looks for their swingmen, and Bibby isn't that type of player. He suppressed the growth of Sac's young guys, I wouldn't be surprised if he did the same in Atlanta. This is not unfortunate at all for the Kings. Any astute King’s fan (one that actually watches Kings games) will know that since Bibby’s return from injury, except for a couple good games at first, the collective energy of the team has taken a nose dive. We had reverted to the horrors of last year where the offense is primarily Bibby or Artest jacking up a brick and the rest of team running back with their heads lowered. This is addition by subtraction, and with Bibby gone, we can play a true pass first PG (Beno), and we will see increased ball movement and more shots for the young guys Martin, Garcia, Douby. I really don’t care what we got back in return, even if Petrie waves all of them the team will be better off in the long run.

I also don’t see how the deal doesn’t make sense if the King’s don’t continue to shed contracts. Even if the dealing ends here it’s still a little bit of cap space saved, which makes it easier to make moves over the summer and beyond.

I wish Atlanta luck and hope for their sake the Bibby that shows up isn’t the one that still thinks he’s top dog and has to take all the big shots. But somehow I doubt that. They needed a pass first playmaker to get easy looks for their swingmen, and Bibby isn’t that type of player. He suppressed the growth of Sac’s young guys, I wouldn’t be surprised if he did the same in Atlanta.

]]> By: JO http://obeese.wordpress.com/2008/02/16/bibby-makes-atlanta-eastern-dark-horse/#comment-458 JO Sun, 17 Feb 2008 00:38:37 +0000 http://obeese.wordpress.com/?p=151#comment-458 You would think from the difference in the fan reaction (Atlanta and Sacramento) that this was another Pau Gasol - Kwame Brown trade. Atlanta fans certainly seem to be happy (and it's been a long time for them) and Kings fans are disappointed. But certainly, Kings fans have known they are rebuilding. So this actually helps them rebuild faster. I agree with your post. Marvin Williams, Josh Smith and Mike Bibby are a powerful three. I'm not a huge fan of Joe Johnson (I know I'm in the minority) and Al Horford has been a good pickup. And Josh Childress does look good now. I don't know how far this will take the Hawks, but certainly they are in better shape today than they were yesterday. I think markedly better and we'll start seeing the benefits right away. I enjoy your blog. www.nbaroto.com You would think from the difference in the fan reaction (Atlanta and Sacramento) that this was another Pau Gasol – Kwame Brown trade. Atlanta fans certainly seem to be happy (and it’s been a long time for them) and Kings fans are disappointed.

But certainly, Kings fans have known they are rebuilding. So this actually helps them rebuild faster.

I agree with your post. Marvin Williams, Josh Smith and Mike Bibby are a powerful three. I’m not a huge fan of Joe Johnson (I know I’m in the minority) and Al Horford has been a good pickup. And Josh Childress does look good now.

I don’t know how far this will take the Hawks, but certainly they are in better shape today than they were yesterday. I think markedly better and we’ll start seeing the benefits right away.

I enjoy your blog.

http://www.nbaroto.com

]]> By: Troy http://obeese.wordpress.com/2008/02/16/bibby-makes-atlanta-eastern-dark-horse/#comment-457 Troy Sun, 17 Feb 2008 00:23:55 +0000 http://obeese.wordpress.com/?p=151#comment-457 Cleveland Cavaliers fans are most certainly NOW banging their heads against the wall today. They expected not acquiring Jason Kidd, I'm sure, but passing up -- or being passed up on its own -- on another veteran point guard who could put them in an over-the-top position in the Eastern Conference has to burn like hot sauce. Cleveland Cavaliers fans are most certainly NOW banging their heads against the wall today. They expected not acquiring Jason Kidd, I’m sure, but passing up — or being passed up on its own — on another veteran point guard who could put them in an over-the-top position in the Eastern Conference has to burn like hot sauce.

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